the death penalty is for people like osama bin laden and ted bundy serial killers. not a 25-year-old girl who lost a child, who clearly was a wonderful mother. >> let me say this about the ten hours. a jury that was sequestered for several weeks, six weeks, so this is a jury that already knew each other, already knew each other's families, about each other's families, knew about each other's likes and dislikes. they didn't have to do any of that. they needed to talk about the case. you have ten hours. that's a long time to talk ate one issue. we're only talking about this a couple minutes. jose baez, nobody knew who this guy was before this case started and frankly, if you -- i went through and read everything again about what people have been saying about him through the course of the trial, most people thought he wasn't particularly experienced, all of a sudden this guy is a bit of a hero. >> he is f. lee bailey. he knew what he didn't know, called in people with great expert opinions. i was on the case, had been practicing 30 years, i hate to say that because tha